EP. 045 – Edtech Thought Leader Q&A: Ben McGowan, Head of IT and Digital, Ted Wragg Multi Academy Trust and Simon Denham, Procurement & Strategic Sourcing Specialist

Our next #FinnemoreFireside is with Ben McGowan, Head of IT and Digital at Ted Wragg Multi Academy Trust and Simon Denham, a Procurement & Strategic Sourcing Specialist they worked with on their recent procurement of an MIS for the Trust.

 

I’ve known Ben for many years from his time at Scomis, and I was lucky enough to work with him at Capita for a short period. A couple of years ago he took up his current role leading the IT and digital strategy at Ted Wragg Trust so when the Trust was looking at MIS options back in 2022, I was delighted to be asked to give my thoughts on “the art of the possible” when it comes to planning for the future needs of the Trust and what MIS can help you achieve. It was there I met Simon Denham as Ted Wragg MAT had engaged him to advise on the procurement process to ensure it was thorough, compliant, and achieved the very best for the Trust and academies.

 

This fireside chat aims to share insights on procurement in the education sector, particularly regarding Management Information Systems (MIS), so if MIS procurement is your thing, or is on the horizon for your school(s), Trust or academies, then this conversation is for you.

 

In it, we discuss, amongst other things:

  • The triggers for procurement include changes in terms and conditions by incumbents exceeding financial thresholds
  • Ted Wragg MAT’s initial thinking behind engaging with specialists, and Simon’s thoughts on managing procurements in the education sector and starting position.
  • How important it was to collaborate and gain stakeholder buy-in, with an emphasis on consulting key stakeholders in schools.
  • Defining a transparent and fair procurement process including clear specification and evaluation criteria followed by independent scoring and detailed feedback to suppliers.
  • Lessons from recent MIS procurement pitfalls, including impermissible discounts and breaches of procurement laws.
  • The key risks and potential pitfalls identified, strategies to mitigate against them, and all additional considerations during the procurement process.
  • The difference between price point and value for money in tenders, and the need to prioritise value over price.
  • An assessment of the initial work’s impact on implementation and adoption, reflections on their education procurement experience, and potential changes for the future.
  • Ben and Simon’s thoughts on a preferred approach for future procurement exercises, and the best ways to support schools and authorities in navigating procurement processes effectively

 

Hope you find it useful, feel free to ask any questions in the comments.

 

Enjoy!

 

 

 

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Working with MIS

We’ve been lucky enough to have worked with most of the maintained MIS suppliers including SIMS (then owned by Capita), Arbor, IRIS Ed:gen, Pupil Asset, and, at the time of writing, working with Bromcom as they grow their user base across the UK.

We’ve recorded tons more #FinnemoreFireside chats on the topic of MIS with MATs, school leaders, support teams, suppliers and independent consultants which you can find here or subscribe to our You Tube channel for regular updates.

Other brilliant free, independent resources we’d recommend you take a look at include WhichMIS and BringMoreData. We also run a LinkedIn group ‘The Future of MIS’ which seeks to understand the new role of MIS in schools and explore what it will look like in the future – come and join the conversation 🙂

Education and Industry thought leader Q&As – thank you for your insight in 2023!

We’ve been privileged to speak with even more edtech and industry thought leaders throughout 2023 as part of our #FinnemoreFireside chats, and the insight they continue to provide to us and our community is invaluable.

 

Thanks to Catherine Tallis of HFL Education, a long-standing provider of MIS support to schools, for discussing how support teams must adapt as the MIS market continues to evolve.

 

Thanks to Derek Hills from Ark for sharing your views on where you see AI fitting into technology budgets and the broader education landscape, and what the future of MIS might be.

 

It’s great to speak with thought leaders from government so thank you to Edtech NED, legislator, schools and education expert Jim Knight for your thoughts on the disconnect between the education and labour market, and the need for a school system which truly meets the needs of learners, communities and employers.

 

Thank you to Chris Kirk of CJK Associates Ltd for your insight into MAT’s needs in terms of vision, strategy, operating models and governance, and what this means for suppliers – both now and in the future.

 

Our chat with Lyndon Stickley and Sam Curtis of iplicit is essential listening for everyone with an interest in finance as they discuss the importance of change in the education sector and the need for flexibility and adaptability in finance and management systems

 

Thank you to Ollie Burnett from the school support team in Coventry for talking to us about all the valuable ways they support their schools, including helping them procure and migrate to their new MIS as a group earlier this year.

 

Finally, we were delighted to speak with Izzi Dorrian and Ed Butcher, founders of the brilliant Habitude workflow platform, for an insightful discussion on the evolving landscape of MATs, the importance of infrastructure, and the need for a clear vision.

 

As always, we’ve thoroughly enjoyed making the series and are looking forward to a fantastic 2024!

 

Have a great Christmas break 🎄

 

Best wishes from Sarah & Nick

 

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EP. 044 – Edtech Business Thought Leader Q&A: Izzi Dorrian & Ed Butcher, Habitude

Our latest #FinnemoreFireside is with Izzi Dorrian and Ed Butcher, founders of the brilliant Habitude workflow platform for MATs, designed to solve slow, unreliable or lost admin by connecting people, platforms and data into trackable workflows.

Both Izzi and Ed are from an educational background themselves and it’s a really insightful discussion including:

  • The significance of education and why both are involved in the field.
  • Importance of stability: Emphasis on understanding policies and processes, especially in times of frequent policy changes.
  • Recruitment and retention: Highlighted the challenge of administrative hassles, compliance, and the need for strategic recruitment and onboarding processes.
  • MATs’ future challenges: Discussion on the evolving landscape of MATs, the importance of infrastructure, and the need for a clear vision.
  • Role of technology: Exploration of the role of technology in MATs, potential improvements, and challenges in adapting to different MAT structures.
  • Openness in data: Advocacy for open data among edtech companies, with a focus on collaborative efforts for better data flow and management in MATs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

EP. 043 – Edtech Thought Leader Q&A: Ollie Burnett, Coventry City Council

We’re delighted to welcome one of our LA Support Team colleagues to our #FinnemoreFireside chats. A huge thank you to Ollie Burnett, Systems Lead at Coventry City Council, who talked to me about their work with schools and plans for the future.

Ollie has been in education since 2003, is passionate about education and aims to improve the experience for students and teachers through his work. It’s a great conversation and, amongst other things, we talk about:

 

  • Having a vision for the future relies on consultation with the SLT, partnering with more suppliers, but ultimately listening and then delivering for their schools and MATs.

 

 

  • The importance of Support teams to schools in helping them navigate software and processes.

 

  • How User Group sessions and sharing best practices among schools are promoted to enhance learning.

 

 

  • Support teams are becoming more consultancy-based in the future and collaborating closely with multi-academy trusts (MATs) to meet school needs.

 

Ollie also chats about the process they went through during their recent MIS switch and why they chose Bromcom. In total, 75% (45) of Coventry’s LA-maintained schools chose to move both MIS and Finance, with the Authority implementing the switch in only 3 weeks by working in a 3-way partnership between the Coventry Support Team, the schools and the supplier. It can be done!

 

 

 

 

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Working with MIS

We’ve been lucky enough to have worked with most of the maintained MIS suppliers including SIMS (then owned by Capita), Arbor, IRIS Ed:gen, Pupil Asset, and, at the time of writing, working with Bromcom as they grow their user base across the UK.

We’ve recorded tons more #FinnemoreFireside chats on the topic of MIS with MATs, school leaders, support teams, suppliers and independent consultants which you can find here or subscribe to our You Tube channel for regular updates.

Other brilliant free, independent resources we’d recommend you take a look at include WhichMIS and BringMoreData, We also run a LinkedIn group ‘The Future of MIS’ which seeks to understand the new role of MIS in schools and explore what it will look like in the future – come and join the conversation 🙂

EP. 042 – Business Thought Leader Q&A: Lyndon Stickley & Sam Curtis, Iplicit

Our first #FinnemoreFireside of this academic year is with Lyndon Stickley (CEO) and Sam Curtis (Customer Service Director) from iplicit where they discuss, amongst other things, their company’s growth in the education sector.

 

iplicit offers a cloud-based finance and management software solution, tailored for frustrated on-premise legacy software users and establishments that have outgrown entry-level software. It’s a really insightful discussion and we cover topics including:

 

  • The importance of change in the education sector, and the need for flexibility and adaptability in finance and management systems.
  • The evolution of MATs and whether they should be expanding on their requirements when going out to tender for a Finance system – or any system – to include areas of their strategy
  • 3 pillars of change
  • The challenges of moving from on-premise systems to cloud-based solutions and the importance of post-implementation support.
  • How systems need to continue to disrupt, innovate and develop to stay ahead of the game, and how this can be difficult for large or incumbent companies
  • Maintaining partnerships with customers and reducing any friction to ensure the customer has the best experience.
  • The significance of listening to the market and customers’ needs for successful change and growth in the education sector.

 

Enjoy!

 

 

 

Education and Industry Thought Leader Q&As – thank you for your insight!

We’ve been privileged to speak with even more industry thought leaders this academic year as part of our #FinnemoreFireside chats, and the insight they provide us and our community is invaluable.

So thank you to Edtech NED, legislator, schools and education expert Jim Knight for your thoughts on the disconnect between the education and labour market, and the need for a school system which truly meets the needs of learners, communities and employers.

Thanks to Derek Hills from Ark for sharing your views on where you see AI fitting into technology budgets and the broader education landscape, and what the future of MIS might be.

Thank you Matt Woodruff for an insightful conversation about how technology can support more effective decision-making at all levels to improve outcomes and identify ways to be able to ‘do more, with less’ – more important than ever in today’s economic climate.

Thanks to Catherine Tallis of HFL Education, a long-standing provider of MIS support to schools, for discussing the ways in which support teams must adapt as the MIS market continues to evolve.

Thank you to Chris Kirk of CJK Associates Ltd for your insight into MAT’s needs in terms of vision, strategy, operating models and governance, and what this means for suppliers – both now and in the future.

And finally, we were delighted to welcome back Martin Baker of The Safeguarding Company for a follow-up chat about the lessons that can be learnt from the Child Q case. A challenging topic and we really appreciate you sharing your experience.

Nick and I have thoroughly enjoyed making the series and already have a great session ready to go in the new term from Lyndon Stickley and Sam Curtis at iplicitOllie Burnett from the school support team in Coventry will also be joining us to talk about all the valuable ways they support their schools, including helping them procure and migrate to their new MIS Bromcom as a group earlier this year. Watch this space!

Have a great summer break everyone 🌞

EP. 041 – Business Leader Q&A: Chris Kirk, Director, CJK Associates

Our final #FinnemoreFireside of this academic year is with Chris Kirk of CJK Associates. Chris’ work is varied and he and his team support the mission of education by providing strategy, business planning, organisation design, operations, procurement and shared service advice to education organisations.

 

Chris works extensively with multi-academy trusts on vision, strategy, operating models and governance/finance reviews, so our Q&A session focuses on MATs and their needs, and what this means for suppliers – both now and in the future.

It’s a really insightful discussion and we cover topics including:

  • Fostering social responsibility in schools and achieving aspirations through clarity
  • How schools can contribute to society
  • Finding your mission: understanding and showcasing your unique capabilities
  • Unlocking the power of professional networks: how Trusts can make a difference
  • The challenge of ensuring adequate support for high-need pupils
  • Establishing a culture of consistency: How do you ensure a similar mission statement in new schools/academies?
  • The future of school groupings and the natural drift towards ten
  • When MATs stand firm and refuse to uphold the Regional Commissioner’s agenda
  • What is Collaborative Alignment? Achieving aspirations through group collaboration
  • The challenges facing schools as the educational environments change

 

We’d love to hear your feedback and comments below. Enjoy!

 

EP. 040 – Thought Leader Q&A: Jim Knight, Edtech NED, legislator, schools and education expert

This month sees us publish our 40th #FinnemoreFireside chat and this time we’re delighted to welcome Jim Knight, The Rt Hon Lord Knight of Weymouth on for a Q&A session.

Jim Knight works in education, digital technology and as a legislator. As a UK government minister and MP, Jim’s portfolios included rural affairs, schools, digital and employment.  He was a member of Gordon Brown’s Cabinet 2009-2010, before joining the Lords after the 2010 General Election.

Jim is a director of Suklaa Ltd, providing advisory services to UK and international clients working in technology for education and learning, international schooling, and teacher engagement. He’s also currently chair of the board for E-ACT, is on the Nord Anglia Education Advisory Board, on the Global Advisory Council for BETT, and was appointed Chair of the Board at COBIS in November 2022.

In this Q&A Nick and Jim discuss amongst other things:

  • Where Jim’s passion for education comes from and why he has dedicated so much of his working career to education.
  • The disconnect between the education and labour market, and the need for a school system which truly meets the needs of learners, communities and employers.
  • Why focusing on academic performance and grades doesn’t work for many, and how other core skills are more important than literacy and numeracy.
  • Is edtech behind the curve compared to industry: what happened to real future-gazing?
  • The fact that leadership on the use of edtech is no longer there (a role previously played by Becta) and something is required to fill the gap.
  • Using trends and AI to promote insights and the associated challenges that come with sharing and interrogating data?
  • The three big challenges that Jim would like to see edtech help solve

 

We’d love to hear your feedback and comments below. Enjoy!

 

 

EP. 039 – Edtech Thought Leader Q&A: Derek Hills, Director of IT, Systems and Data at Ark

We’re kicking off the summer term with our next #FinnemoreFireside, this time with Derek Hills,  Director of IT, Systems and Data at Ark, a charity and network of 39 schools that aims to transform children’s lives through education.

 

Derek has a wealth of experience leading first-class Data and IT teams, having previously worked with other MATs including Harris Federation and David Ross Education Trust before taking up his role at Ark. He knows the MIS landscape well and we had an interesting chat about what the future of MIS might be, including topics such as:

 

  • Where does Derek’s passion for data and analytics come from, and why does he love working in education?
  • What can be achieved by sharing data, info and best practice
  • Where he sees AI fitting into technology budgets and the broader education landscape
  • Are schools getting enough out of their edtech and systems, and are they utilising it effectively?
  • Consolidating solutions means investment can go into teaching, but what are the challenges around open data policies?
  • The importance of working in partnership with suppliers and forming long-lasting relationships
  • What Derek would like to see more of from edtech companies

 

 

 

 

 

EP. 038 – Business Thought Leader Q&A: Catherine Tallis, Director of Business Services at HFL Education

Our first #FinnemoreFireside of 2023 is with Catherine Tallis, Director of Business Services at HFL Education.

HFL Education (formerly Herts for Learning) is a national provider of school improvement and business support services, training and resources.  As long-standing providers of MIS support to their schools, this Q&A discussed in detail the ways in which support teams must adapt as the MIS market continues to evolve. Being a SIMS-only support team, as was usually once the case, is now a risky strategy for any team wanting to remain in business in the coming years.

 

It’s a fascinating chat and, amongst other things, Nick and Catherine discuss:

  • The precarious state of school finances and the impact that has on decisions, and the huge amount of pressure on schools as they are taking on more as services around them are cut to the bone (e.g. CAMHS, social care, etc.)
  • How academisation and changes to the way schools licence MIS have led to the sector completely changing, and how HFL Education have adapted into a multi-MIS support team to help their schools
  • What will happen to teams who aren’t able to adapt quickly, and how the conversation needs to shift away from software support to whole school strategic support
  • The challenges around understanding overheads as a business where teams are still part of an LA
  • The democratisation of data, and how HFL Education supports meaningful school improvement through the effective use of data
  • Schools are great at curriculum change but not always so great at change across other systems, and this is something support teams can help with
  • HFL Education’s vision and plans for the next five years
  • What Catherine would like to see from the market and from suppliers

 

We’d love to hear your feedback; what would you like to learn from support team leaders?