Education and Industry thought leader Q&As – thank you for your insight in 2023!

We’ve been privileged to speak with even more edtech and industry thought leaders throughout 2023 as part of our #FinnemoreFireside chats, and the insight they continue to provide to us and our community is invaluable.

 

Thanks to Catherine Tallis of HFL Education, a long-standing provider of MIS support to schools, for discussing how support teams must adapt as the MIS market continues to evolve.

 

Thanks to Derek Hills from Ark for sharing your views on where you see AI fitting into technology budgets and the broader education landscape, and what the future of MIS might be.

 

It’s great to speak with thought leaders from government so thank you to Edtech NED, legislator, schools and education expert Jim Knight for your thoughts on the disconnect between the education and labour market, and the need for a school system which truly meets the needs of learners, communities and employers.

 

Thank you to Chris Kirk of CJK Associates Ltd for your insight into MAT’s needs in terms of vision, strategy, operating models and governance, and what this means for suppliers – both now and in the future.

 

Our chat with Lyndon Stickley and Sam Curtis of iplicit is essential listening for everyone with an interest in finance as they discuss the importance of change in the education sector and the need for flexibility and adaptability in finance and management systems

 

Thank you to Ollie Burnett from the school support team in Coventry for talking to us about all the valuable ways they support their schools, including helping them procure and migrate to their new MIS as a group earlier this year.

 

Finally, we were delighted to speak with Izzi Dorrian and Ed Butcher, founders of the brilliant Habitude workflow platform, for an insightful discussion on the evolving landscape of MATs, the importance of infrastructure, and the need for a clear vision.

 

As always, we’ve thoroughly enjoyed making the series and are looking forward to a fantastic 2024!

 

Have a great Christmas break 🎄

 

Best wishes from Sarah & Nick

 

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EP. 044 – Edtech Business Thought Leader Q&A: Izzi Dorrian & Ed Butcher, Habitude

Our latest #FinnemoreFireside is with Izzi Dorrian and Ed Butcher, founders of the brilliant Habitude workflow platform for MATs, designed to solve slow, unreliable or lost admin by connecting people, platforms and data into trackable workflows.

Both Izzi and Ed are from an educational background themselves and it’s a really insightful discussion including:

  • The significance of education and why both are involved in the field.
  • Importance of stability: Emphasis on understanding policies and processes, especially in times of frequent policy changes.
  • Recruitment and retention: Highlighted the challenge of administrative hassles, compliance, and the need for strategic recruitment and onboarding processes.
  • MATs’ future challenges: Discussion on the evolving landscape of MATs, the importance of infrastructure, and the need for a clear vision.
  • Role of technology: Exploration of the role of technology in MATs, potential improvements, and challenges in adapting to different MAT structures.
  • Openness in data: Advocacy for open data among edtech companies, with a focus on collaborative efforts for better data flow and management in MATs.

 

 

 

 

 

 

EP. 043 – Edtech Thought Leader Q&A: Ollie Burnett, Coventry City Council

We’re delighted to welcome one of our LA Support Team colleagues to our #FinnemoreFireside chats. A huge thank you to Ollie Burnett, Systems Lead at Coventry City Council, who talked to me about their work with schools and plans for the future.

Ollie has been in education since 2003, is passionate about education and aims to improve the experience for students and teachers through his work. It’s a great conversation and, amongst other things, we talk about:

 

  • Having a vision for the future relies on consultation with the SLT, partnering with more suppliers, but ultimately listening and then delivering for their schools and MATs.

 

 

  • The importance of Support teams to schools in helping them navigate software and processes.

 

  • How User Group sessions and sharing best practices among schools are promoted to enhance learning.

 

 

  • Support teams are becoming more consultancy-based in the future and collaborating closely with multi-academy trusts (MATs) to meet school needs.

 

Ollie also chats about the process they went through during their recent MIS switch and why they chose Bromcom. In total, 75% (45) of Coventry’s LA-maintained schools chose to move both MIS and Finance, with the Authority implementing the switch in only 3 weeks by working in a 3-way partnership between the Coventry Support Team, the schools and the supplier. It can be done!

 

 

 

 

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Working with MIS

We’ve been lucky enough to have worked with most of the maintained MIS suppliers including SIMS (then owned by Capita), Arbor, IRIS Ed:gen, Pupil Asset, and, at the time of writing, working with Bromcom as they grow their user base across the UK.

We’ve recorded tons more #FinnemoreFireside chats on the topic of MIS with MATs, school leaders, support teams, suppliers and independent consultants which you can find here or subscribe to our You Tube channel for regular updates.

Other brilliant free, independent resources we’d recommend you take a look at include WhichMIS and BringMoreData, We also run a LinkedIn group ‘The Future of MIS’ which seeks to understand the new role of MIS in schools and explore what it will look like in the future – come and join the conversation 🙂

EP. 042 – Business Thought Leader Q&A: Lyndon Stickley & Sam Curtis, Iplicit

Our first #FinnemoreFireside of this academic year is with Lyndon Stickley (CEO) and Sam Curtis (Customer Service Director) from iplicit where they discuss, amongst other things, their company’s growth in the education sector.

 

iplicit offers a cloud-based finance and management software solution, tailored for frustrated on-premise legacy software users and establishments that have outgrown entry-level software. It’s a really insightful discussion and we cover topics including:

 

  • The importance of change in the education sector, and the need for flexibility and adaptability in finance and management systems.
  • The evolution of MATs and whether they should be expanding on their requirements when going out to tender for a Finance system – or any system – to include areas of their strategy
  • 3 pillars of change
  • The challenges of moving from on-premise systems to cloud-based solutions and the importance of post-implementation support.
  • How systems need to continue to disrupt, innovate and develop to stay ahead of the game, and how this can be difficult for large or incumbent companies
  • Maintaining partnerships with customers and reducing any friction to ensure the customer has the best experience.
  • The significance of listening to the market and customers’ needs for successful change and growth in the education sector.

 

Enjoy!

 

 

 

Education and Industry Thought Leader Q&As – thank you for your insight!

We’ve been privileged to speak with even more industry thought leaders this academic year as part of our #FinnemoreFireside chats, and the insight they provide us and our community is invaluable.

So thank you to Edtech NED, legislator, schools and education expert Jim Knight for your thoughts on the disconnect between the education and labour market, and the need for a school system which truly meets the needs of learners, communities and employers.

Thanks to Derek Hills from Ark for sharing your views on where you see AI fitting into technology budgets and the broader education landscape, and what the future of MIS might be.

Thank you Matt Woodruff for an insightful conversation about how technology can support more effective decision-making at all levels to improve outcomes and identify ways to be able to ‘do more, with less’ – more important than ever in today’s economic climate.

Thanks to Catherine Tallis of HFL Education, a long-standing provider of MIS support to schools, for discussing the ways in which support teams must adapt as the MIS market continues to evolve.

Thank you to Chris Kirk of CJK Associates Ltd for your insight into MAT’s needs in terms of vision, strategy, operating models and governance, and what this means for suppliers – both now and in the future.

And finally, we were delighted to welcome back Martin Baker of The Safeguarding Company for a follow-up chat about the lessons that can be learnt from the Child Q case. A challenging topic and we really appreciate you sharing your experience.

Nick and I have thoroughly enjoyed making the series and already have a great session ready to go in the new term from Lyndon Stickley and Sam Curtis at iplicitOllie Burnett from the school support team in Coventry will also be joining us to talk about all the valuable ways they support their schools, including helping them procure and migrate to their new MIS Bromcom as a group earlier this year. Watch this space!

Have a great summer break everyone 🌞

EP. 041 – Business Leader Q&A: Chris Kirk, Director, CJK Associates

Our final #FinnemoreFireside of this academic year is with Chris Kirk of CJK Associates. Chris’ work is varied and he and his team support the mission of education by providing strategy, business planning, organisation design, operations, procurement and shared service advice to education organisations.

 

Chris works extensively with multi-academy trusts on vision, strategy, operating models and governance/finance reviews, so our Q&A session focuses on MATs and their needs, and what this means for suppliers – both now and in the future.

It’s a really insightful discussion and we cover topics including:

  • Fostering social responsibility in schools and achieving aspirations through clarity
  • How schools can contribute to society
  • Finding your mission: understanding and showcasing your unique capabilities
  • Unlocking the power of professional networks: how Trusts can make a difference
  • The challenge of ensuring adequate support for high-need pupils
  • Establishing a culture of consistency: How do you ensure a similar mission statement in new schools/academies?
  • The future of school groupings and the natural drift towards ten
  • When MATs stand firm and refuse to uphold the Regional Commissioner’s agenda
  • What is Collaborative Alignment? Achieving aspirations through group collaboration
  • The challenges facing schools as the educational environments change

 

We’d love to hear your feedback and comments below. Enjoy!

 

EP. 039 – Edtech Thought Leader Q&A: Derek Hills, Director of IT, Systems and Data at Ark

We’re kicking off the summer term with our next #FinnemoreFireside, this time with Derek Hills,  Director of IT, Systems and Data at Ark, a charity and network of 39 schools that aims to transform children’s lives through education.

 

Derek has a wealth of experience leading first-class Data and IT teams, having previously worked with other MATs including Harris Federation and David Ross Education Trust before taking up his role at Ark. He knows the MIS landscape well and we had an interesting chat about what the future of MIS might be, including topics such as:

 

  • Where does Derek’s passion for data and analytics come from, and why does he love working in education?
  • What can be achieved by sharing data, info and best practice
  • Where he sees AI fitting into technology budgets and the broader education landscape
  • Are schools getting enough out of their edtech and systems, and are they utilising it effectively?
  • Consolidating solutions means investment can go into teaching, but what are the challenges around open data policies?
  • The importance of working in partnership with suppliers and forming long-lasting relationships
  • What Derek would like to see more of from edtech companies

 

 

 

 

 

EP. 038 – Business Thought Leader Q&A: Catherine Tallis, Director of Business Services at HFL Education

Our first #FinnemoreFireside of 2023 is with Catherine Tallis, Director of Business Services at HFL Education.

HFL Education (formerly Herts for Learning) is a national provider of school improvement and business support services, training and resources.  As long-standing providers of MIS support to their schools, this Q&A discussed in detail the ways in which support teams must adapt as the MIS market continues to evolve. Being a SIMS-only support team, as was usually once the case, is now a risky strategy for any team wanting to remain in business in the coming years.

 

It’s a fascinating chat and, amongst other things, Nick and Catherine discuss:

  • The precarious state of school finances and the impact that has on decisions, and the huge amount of pressure on schools as they are taking on more as services around them are cut to the bone (e.g. CAMHS, social care, etc.)
  • How academisation and changes to the way schools licence MIS have led to the sector completely changing, and how HFL Education have adapted into a multi-MIS support team to help their schools
  • What will happen to teams who aren’t able to adapt quickly, and how the conversation needs to shift away from software support to whole school strategic support
  • The challenges around understanding overheads as a business where teams are still part of an LA
  • The democratisation of data, and how HFL Education supports meaningful school improvement through the effective use of data
  • Schools are great at curriculum change but not always so great at change across other systems, and this is something support teams can help with
  • HFL Education’s vision and plans for the next five years
  • What Catherine would like to see from the market and from suppliers

 

We’d love to hear your feedback; what would you like to learn from support team leaders?

 

 

Education and Industry thought leader Q&As – thank you for your insight

We’ve been privileged to speak with even more edtech and industry thought leaders throughout 2022 as part of our #FinnemoreFireside chats, and the insight they provide us and our community is invaluable.

 

So thank you Jonathan Coyles of EO Consulting for talking to us about how Trusts can become more energy-efficient, hit carbon targets, and save money at the same time.

 

Thanks to Mike Donoghue for giving us an insight into how MATs work and what is important to directors, leaders, governors, staff and learners.

 

It’s great to speak with entrepreneurs from across the edtech industry so thank you Lawrence Royston for getting involved and giving us your perspective.

 

Thank you to Stephen Bilboe for talking to us about changes across the international and independent education sector, and what the future might hold in terms of MIS.

 

Our chat with marketing and PR guru Cath Lane is essential listening for everyone who owns or leads an edtech business, thanks for the great advice.

 

Thank you to Andy Kent for talking to us about his focus on innovation and culture to help all levels of the education sector.

 

We welcomed Phil Neal back for a follow-up chat to discuss changes in the world of school management systems.

 

We spoke with Martin Baker of The Safeguarding Company about the lessons that can be learnt from the Child Q case.

 

And finally, we were delighted to speak with Matt Woodruff, Vice President of Analytics and AI at Community Brands UK, for an insightful conversation about data and machine learning.

 

We’ve thoroughly enjoyed making the series and already have some great sessions ready to go in the new year including a discussion on school support with Catherine Tallis, Director Of Business Services at Herts for Learning Ltd – watch this space!

 

 

Have a great Christmas break, looking forward to sharing more with you all in 2023! 🎄

 

Best wishes from Sarah & Nick

 

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EP. 036 – Thought Leader Q&A: Martin Baker of The Safeguarding Company talks about the lessons that can be learnt from the Child Q case

Before the summer I caught up with Martin Baker, Co-Founder and CEO of The Safeguarding Company. Martin is a former chief police officer whose 38-year career spanned five UK police forces, where he was responsible for all aspects of safeguarding and child protection and managed the risks posed by violent and sexual offenders living in the community. You can read more on Martin’s background here.

 

During the Q&A, Martin and I had an insightful conversation focused purely on the recent Child Q safeguarding incident. Some particularly interesting areas of discussion include:

 

  • How the action taken with Child Q was disproportionate vs the potential suspicion
  • Martin challenges the current way of thinking and what you should ask yourself before acting in a safeguarding incident
  • We talk about the adultification of black and minority children, removing their innocence of age.
  • How we may misinterpret ‘Fawn’ as acceptance
  • The impact on Child Q and her family, and the damage it has done
  • How intersectionality comes into play when discriminating against Child Q
  • Why we cannot hide behind unconscious bias
  • How we need to change the training and culture to ensure we never have another Child Q situation again

 

We’ve split it into two parts to make it easier to digest.

(TW: this conversation contains potentially distressing subject matter)

 

Additional reading

Following on from the #FinnemoreFireside chat, Martin has suggested that the following would be useful additional reading about some of the topics covered in this chat Guidance for safer working practice for those working with children and young people in education settings (February 2022).

Martin has also pointed out that, since the publication of the Child Q case practice review, the Department for Education has updated its guidance on searching, screening and confiscation in schools.  The revised guidance can be found here.